Curse

Ouchie · Mar 27, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Try Looking for a group on weekends - I have never had a problem getting a group for a mission - side quests you probably won't find anyone to do with you though.

monk463 · Mar 27, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47

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Originally Posted by quickmonty

Nobody does missions in Tyria anymore. All I ever see in local chat is "looking for run". Hardly ever see "LFG".

Exactly... but from everyone who replied I guess it is what it is--SAD.

Oh well like I said ... short rant so I guess I'll do what needs doing, frustrate a little more then maybe buy next campaign and try heroes out for size. Just like to do things in order sorta <=== (unintentional rhyme) so I still want to wrap up Prophecies before another campaign. This is all kinda new to a guy my age

Sleeper Service · Mar 27, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

its more than feasible withe plain old henchies. with heroes its a cakewalk.

7Heroesforall.

cebalrai · Mar 27, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Heroes killed grouping in GW. Now it's a solo rpg.

Skyy High · Mar 27, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47

There's people like the OP, and then there's people who hated the gates and such of NF and Factions. Can't please everyone.

Ekelon · Mar 27, 2008, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Welcome to Dead Wars monk463. Announcing GW2 was a bad idea.

Kusandaa · Mar 27, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by cebalrai

Heroes killed grouping in GW. Now it's a solo rpg.

Grouping killed itself due to the awful attitude of most PUGs. I used henchies for questing, PUGs for missions... then moved to asking for help in guild in my previous guild. The last time I stepped into the desert (and the very last one, hopefully) was to vanquish.

[DE] · Mar 27, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

Such a small player base is spread out over so many different towns and outposts that there aren't very many places that you'll find people looking to actually pug with you. It's best just to get well acquainted with your henchmen and truck along till the end.

Arkantos · Mar 27, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

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Originally Posted by cebalrai

Heroes killed grouping in GW. Now it's a solo rpg.

People played with all henchie groups before heroes were released. Heroes aren't the problem, GW players are. Most pug groups failed, most players were bad, lots were rude, immature, etc. Heroes merely help people who didn't want to pug due to the horrible reputation pugs had and wanted more then henchies, which was heroes.

Not to mention the somewhat small playerbase is spread out over many outposts, as DE said.

Fried Tech · Mar 27, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

The desert is boring. I played through it once, I get run through it with any other chars.

Yep. The only time I ran the desert was when I was going for cart title.
First time I loaded into the Oasis I saw someone doing a desert tour for 2.5k, and I took it. Then, a guildy ran me through the missions. LOL.

Snow Bunny · Mar 27, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Good players don't pug.

They've either quit or refused to leave their Guild halls. Like Trub.

MisterB · Mar 27, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by kobey

henchies are actually much better than 75% of pug. You might actually stand a higher chance of suceeding with henchies tbh

I agree with this. I had the same experience when I first got to the desert. Tried to form or join groups in Amnoon Oasis only to watch them wipe right outside the portals to the Scarabs. Left the PuGs behind and henched it.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Mar 27, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

i think that the PUGway died in factions. With the mass amount of sin failures. When you went in a town and all you saw was assassins you were kinda forced to learn how to Henchway it and then you got used to things actually being able to follow your commands and attack certain targets. and the monks weren't total assholes that would bitch if someone didn't follow their orders exactly and the monk got hit.

I really RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hated monks back then they were always jerks in factions, maybe with good reason but when a PUg monk starts bitching that the other players are noobs and dont know the mission when after following the monks commands for 5 runs and it not working they try something different but the monk runs off and dies and then rages at the team because they refuse to rez him even though he just went wammo.

also SOJ smiters sittin in groups and claiming that monks are meant to nuke.

i have seen a few interesting monks in guild wars pre nightfall.

i know there were nice monks who were good it just seemed that every monk who had the tattoos and was a male was going to be a 5 year asshat

MrDark88 · Mar 27, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

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Originally Posted by monk463

I have just started to play the desert areas and I am becoming frustrated with the lack of 'players' versus people willing to pay some one to 'run' them through the game. So far I have had to find outposts and do the quest associated with them with hencies only (with t e exception of one pug).

Is it me...is the way to play the desert finding a path (guided or not) that u can run through without confronting the 'E' of PvE (environment). It is a little frustrating that stand in an outpost looking for a party and finding a group that wants to know what u charge for the run through or what u will pay them for the run through.

It is almost to the point that I will jump ahead to another campaign just to get hero's and go it alone. Like I said a short rant so I'll stop but I truly would appreciate opinions.

Joe

If you still need help...

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thasadar606 · Mar 27, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Yeah!There are not that many party calls but most of the players got cocky!
With all the cool armors, the titles, fancy items ...most of the people are full of vanity...this is mostly in the case of the kids who play... they act all RANKY and leet that they forget it's Guild Wars not Single Player Wars
When I was a freshling to the game often I got criticized and left into outposts by flaming party leaders.
Often when I find good parties is either finding older players or kids who still know what's the game about: Having Fun!

kobey · Mar 28, 2008, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Good players don't pug.

They've either quit or refused to leave their Guild halls. Like Trub.

Agreed totally

Aera Lure · Mar 28, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

Heroes killed what was left of PUGs in places like this. Either get heroes or get a run.

katherinetheblood · Mar 28, 2008, 04:46 AM // 04:46

I try to be nice to people when Im helping others but when you get some jerk in your group trying to hit on you and say how large his thing is...you get snippy really quick. >.> Then again, this is my fate for having a pair of breasts along with a love of video games.

Anywho, dealing with the desert. I soloed most of it in Katherine's young age and have now become a master at the necro transversal in Dunes of Despair. ^^" If you are doing that area, just learn to control henchmen. You will get the hang of it, and if you really need help, give me a ring but do tell me who you are. I get suspicious of strangers PMing me in the middle of a mapping run.

Konig Des Todes · Mar 28, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

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Originally Posted by katherinetheblood

I try to be nice to people when Im helping others but when you get some jerk in your group trying to hit on you and say how large his thing is...you get snippy really quick. >.> Then again, this is my fate for having a pair of breasts along with a love of video games.

Anywho, dealing with the desert. I soloed most of it in Katherine's young age and have now become a master at the necro transversal in Dunes of Despair. ^^" If you are doing that area, just learn to control henchmen. You will get the hang of it, and if you really need help, give me a ring but do tell me who you are. I get suspicious of strangers PMing me in the middle of a mapping run.

Something many guys joke about that I find just plain stupid, and I would prefer if more girls played video games then what the average belief is. Mainly because girls are actually nice to talk to compared to most of the community. Only people I can stand most of the time are girls on GW, sadly.

Anyways, back to topic. Pugs have been dead for a while,especially in Prophecies. In prophecies its mostly:
make a new character
get out of pre
get a run to droks, LA, and THK
level outside droks or in factions
guild group for THK and on, next campaign

It's rather sad. I hope they don't have any very fast way of leveling compared to the original leveling rate for GW2. I do commend you on wanting to do the whole campaign for Prophecies, but don't think you'll get many groups. I had to hench all of prophecies and factions because whenever I joined pugs, I failed miserably, mainly because of some necro or monk not knowing what s/he is doing.

I still say Full Guild Group>Heroes>Henchies>Pug.

ogre_jd · Mar 28, 2008, 08:42 AM // 08:42

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Heroes merely help people who didn't want to pug due to the horrible reputation pugs had and wanted more then henchies, which was heroes.

They also help those of us who are slow and do things like stop to pick up their loot when the local mobs're cleared and, if they have keys, open chests, salvage stuff, check out collectors they're encountering for the first time in explorables, weave along the sides of the path and take the generally longer edge routes for mapping purposes, etc., instead of just trying to get through as fast as possible. Not in timed missions, obviously (I'm slow and deliberate - not stupid

), but that sort of behaviour seems to really, really annoy people.

[QUOTE=katherinethebloodI try to be nice to people when Im helping others but when you get some jerk in your group trying to hit on you and say how large his thing is...you get snippy really quick. >.> Then again, this is my fate for having a pair of breasts along with a love of video games.[/QUOTE]

Nah. It's your fate for using a female character with a sensible (female) name instead of standard MMORPG gibberish.